WWII sites near Munich?

Our family will be visiting Eastern Europe beginning next week. My 21 year old son is a WWII history nut and would like to see some sites related to the war. Can anyone recommend some day trips. We have three days and two nights. I know Dachau is close enough by train. Would this be a worthwhile trip? Any suggestions are deeply appreciated.

Thanks!

Chris

fanotravel

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Re: WWII sites near Munich?

Jul 15, 2006, 4:42 PM

Your son would probably be interested in taking the %26quot;Thrid Reich%26quot; walking tour if it still exits. We took the tour in 2004. The tour starts in Marienplatz under the Glockenspeil. Begins at 10:00 and ends around 12 or 12:30. Just show up and the tour guide will have a sign to let you know of the tour. The tour takes you to visit some of the Nazi buildings (some of which are stilled scarred from the war). It also traces the steps of Hitler%26#39;s failed %26quot;beer hall putsch%26quot; in 1923 ending on the streets of Munich with the death of 16 Nazi%26#39;s and 3 or 4 policemen and the subsequent arrest and imprisonment of Hitler. I believe there are other walking tours that are similar.

Also, you could travel to Berchtesgaden and take a tour with David Harper to Hitler%26#39;s Mountain retreat at Obersalzburg which includes a tour of the %26quot;Eagle%26#39;s Nest%26quot; high on the Kehlstein mountain. The web site is: www.eagles-nest-tours.com/en/page3.php. An excellent tour.

These are just two recommentdations.I am sure there are many more and maybe more knowledgeable people than I of the area can assist you. Have fun.

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Jul 15, 2006, 5:47 PM

Check around, in some of the book stores you probably will still find some postcards or picture books taken in Munich right after WWII.

I still recall a university Christmas party in 1948 in the basement of the Regina Palast Hotel, the only remnants of this top hotel. It was a dismal affair. Today, you can see the same building completely rebuilt . It is the only large building on the north side of the park.between the Lenbachplatz and the Platz der Opfer des Nationalsoziallsmus. It now houses an insurance company. Similarly, with the WWII pictures and a good city map, you can make many of such comparisons, such as of the opera house, the university, etc..

The old Armee Museum to the east of the Odeons square (which is in front of the Feldherrnhalle, at the beginning of the Ludwigstrasse) was left standing as a ruin.as a reminder of the horrors of war.

The tour of the old SS bunkers etc. at the Obersalzberg, mentioned by %26quot;fanotravel%26quot;, is also very interesting, as is is the trip to the top of the Kehlstein (aka Eagle%26#39;s nest). You don%26#39;t need to join a tour for that one.

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Re: WWII sites near Munich?

Jul 18, 2006, 2:55 AM

The city of Munich has recently released a guide with a map and an audioguide containing sites in Munich related to the Nazi regime. (Sorry, only in german, but the maps might be useful)

The printed guide is here

http://www.muenchen.de/vip8/prod2/mde/_de/

rubriken/Rathaus/55_kult/15_museen/

nsdokumentationszentrum/

25_themengeschichtspfad/ThemenGeschichtsPfad.pdf

a map with overview here

www.muenchen.de/vip8/prod2/mde/_de/rubriken/

Rathaus/55_kult/15_museen/nsdokumentationszentrum/

25_themengeschichtspfad/Uebersichtsplan.pdf

the audioguide here

http://www.muenchen.de/Rathaus/kult/museen/

nsdokumentationszentrum/themengeschichtspfad/

audio/166561/index.html

To Dachau it%26#39;s just a short trip by train from Munich (25 min from Hauptbahnhof plus a 10 min bus ride or a 20-30 min walk), they have guided tours in english and english audioguides. Lots of people from all over the world are visiting Dachau (to be precise, they visit the concentration camp memorial site, not Dachau town), so for people interested in this part of history def. worth a trip, but VERY depressing.

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Re: WWII sites near Munich?

Jul 20, 2006, 12:57 AM

Thank you all so much for your most helpful information. I have made print outs and am taking them with me tomorrow. I REALLY appreciate your input!

Sincerely,

Chris

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Does anyone here know what the general attitude towards breastfeeding in public or in restaurants is in Munich? Obviously, I try to be as discreet as possible with the baby well hidden under a large scarf but I wonder if the practice is frowned upon. I don%26#39;t have much of a choice since the baby can%26#39;t take a bottle but I would rather not have to feed him in a stinky bathroom.

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Sommerfest in Munich

I will be going to Munich in a couple of weeks and I would like to go to Sommerfest. Is it worth spending a lot of time there? Are there many beer tents? How long does it take to get to Olympic Park from the Munich city center?

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Re: Sommerfest in Munich

Jul 20, 2006, 8:04 AM

Hi,

it%26#39;s nice there, they have 1 beer tent and some fun rides. On 10th and 17th of August they%26#39;ll have a firework starting at 10 p.m. There are also music bands playing in the Theatron (small open air arena at the lake in the park) for free each day, some of them are really good.

Munich main station or Marienplatz to Olympiapark is a 10 min train ride. From there about a 5-10 min walk to the festival. So just have a look, it won%26#39;t take you long to find out whether you like it or not. The Olympic park is worth a trip anyway.

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World Equestrian Games

My girlfriend and I are staying in Valkenburg and will be attending the Dressage events at the WEG. My concern is travelling back to the hotel from Aachen after the Finals on Saturday night as public transportation doesn%26#39;t seem to run much past 10pm and the show will probably not be over until midnight.

Would a taxi be an alternative? Any other suggestions?

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Chicago
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Re: World Equestrian Games

Jul 20, 2006, 8:40 AM

I%26#39;m sure our friend Dierdre will not let us leave until the very end that night.

It might be tight, but the five of us should fit for the trip home. We have a Passat wagon.

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Castles Question

We are visiting Bavaria this summer and want to visit the castles.

I understand that you normally must wait a long time for a short tour.

Can you avoid the wait by purchasing the ticket before - does this really allow you to bypass the line?

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Re: Castles Question

Jul 09, 2006, 3:50 PM

Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau let you make reservations in advance--then you just show up at the appointed time and you%26#39;ll see your %26quot;number%26quot; come up on the sign. It%26#39;s not really that long of a wait--at least it wasn%26#39;t when we did it 2 summers ago. In my opinion, it%26#39;s worth the 4 hour line we waited in 20 years ago, but today%26#39;s tours are shorter and the line is much more efficient now.

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Re: Castles Question

Jul 15, 2006, 7:21 PM

For a small additional fee, you can purchase a reservation on the net. I highly recommend this. I recently purchased a 10:15 am ticket for Howenschwangau and 12:15pm for Neuschwanstein. The tours are fairly short but it will take some time to catch the bus up to Neuschwanstein. It%26#39;s a good 30 minute walk uphill if you don%26#39;t want to wait. If you don%26#39;t have a reservation, you may show up in the a.m and not be able to join a tour until late in the day. I%26#39;ve been there three times and making a reservation is the way to go. You can at least plan the rest of your day.

Have fun.

tmynatt

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Re: Castles Question

Jul 20, 2006, 12:29 PM

You can also stay in castles overnight (like a hotel). There are quite a few located all over. Try this link:

http://www.rhinecastles.com/

We planned 1 whole European vacation around staying in castles. Some are better than others (of course). Prices range from dirt cheap (Castel Veldenstein) to 5-star very expensive. I would highly recommend Veldenstein becase it%26#39;s located on a rail line...very close to Nuremberg. Also Castle Colmberg near Rothenberg is not quite as cheap (but still affordable) and a great place to stay.

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Köln cheap hotels

Hello!

Is anybody knows non expensive hotels in Köln? Something about less that 80 Europe per night for 2 people.

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Re: Köln cheap hotels

Jul 20, 2006, 7:41 PM

Check the site www.hotel.de for German hotels.

I%26#39;ve used it several times and it seems to give good prices for hotels in Germany. If you find some in your price range, then check here for reviews.

There are quite a large number of reasonable hotels near the main rail station.

I booked the Hotel Merian last April and it was only 43 Euros for a single. It was a pleasant stay.

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Need help/evaluation Munich/Fussen trip

Please critique this itinerary and help me to plan the best way. We are a party of three: 67 yr old Mother/Grandma; 42 yr old daughter; and 9 yr old granddaughter.

](day 1)Arrive Munich abt 2 PM plan to walk to Marienplatz and watch the 5PM show of the Glockenspiel.

Next day:(day 2) Get Bayern ticket and travel to Prien an Chiemsee to see the castle and just brouse around.

(day 3) Another Bayern/Lander ticket and go to Garmisch; take tram to Zugspitze

(day 4) Bayern ticket to Fuessen. spend 2 nights here. have tickets to Hohenschwangau for 4 pm the first day and Neuschwanstein the following morning. Thinking about renting bikes to bike around the lake etc. Is this doable? Also have tickets for Ludwig - the Musical for our second nite.

(day5) lv 8am, buy %26#39;regular%26#39; ticket to Buchloe - then Bayern ticket to Munich airport to catch 1PM flight to London.

Any suggestions/criticisms would be welcome.

tmynatt

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Re: Need help/evaluation Munich/Fussen trip

Jul 20, 2006, 12:15 PM

I would vote to NOT stay in Fussen, but instead choose the little town of Horn which is closer to the castles than Fussen. It%26#39;s such a pleasant little town with lots of horses, cows, bike trails, etc. I can recommend the Hotel Helmerhof where we just spent 5 nights in June. Wonderful place. Horn is one of our favorite places in all of Bavaria.

TelePort

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Re: Need help/evaluation Munich/Fussen trip

Jul 20, 2006, 7:50 PM

All of your trips have chapters in Earl Steinbicker%26#39;s %26quot;Daytrips Germany%26quot;. It is, sadly, out of print but you might find a used copy on Amazon or at Powell%26#39;s Books (Google them for website info).

It has a walking tour of each location and restaurant suggestions in three price ranges. I%26#39;ve used his guides for almost 20 trips to Europe and he has never let me down.

I%26#39;ve never stayed in Fussen but I found it pleasant enough when I visited Neuschwanstein.

At Prien, you have a choice of taking the small (steam?) train to the lake or walking along the path that parallels the narrow gauge rail line. I found the walk easy and was able to pick up snacks and beverages from a store along the way.

ppiew

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Re: Need help/evaluation Munich/Fussen trip

Jul 20, 2006, 11:23 PM

Maybe Hohenschwangau is a better description. We stayed in the Hotel Mueller several years ago and the view from our balconey couldn%26#39;t have been better - Neuschwantstein on on side and Hohenschsangau on the other - with an Alpine lake just up the road about a block. It was truly a dream - which is why we want to spend two nights there. I s the Munich to Garmisch and Munich to Priem an Chiemsee a good plan? Or are we just doing too much traveling? Please help - I want this trip to be special for my daughter and granddaughter. My gr-grandparents came from Bavaria and I want them to appreciate what the area has to offer. Thanks again!!

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